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From Xiaoqiao He <xq.he2...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] fate of branch-2.9
Date Thu, 27 Aug 2020 10:16:45 GMT
+1 for putting 2.9 release lines to EOL.

Thanks,
Hexiaoqiao

On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 3:14 PM Mingliang Liu <liuml07@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 for putting 2.9 lines to EOL.
>
> Let's focus on 2.10 releases for Hadoop 2. Also is there any plan for
> 2.10.1? It has been 11 months since 2.10 first release.
>
> Thanks,
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 10:57 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <weichiu@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Bump up this thread after 6 months.
> >
> > Is anyone still interested in the 2.9 release line? Or are we good to
> start
> > the EOL process? The 2.9.2 was released in Nov 2018.
> >
> > I'd really like to see the community to converge to fewer release lines
> and
> > make more frequent releases in each line.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Weichiu
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 5:47 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <weichiu@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I think that's a great suggestion.
> > > Currently, we make 1 minor release per year, and within each minor
> > release
> > > we bring up 1 thousand to 2 thousand commits in it compared with the
> > > previous one.
> > > I can totally understand it is a big bite for users to swallow. Having
> a
> > > more frequent release cycle, plus LTS and non-LTS releases should help
> > with
> > > this. (Of course we will need to make the release preparation much
> > easier,
> > > which is currently a pain)
> > >
> > > I am happy to discuss the release model further in the dev ML. LTS v.s.
> > > non-LTS is one suggestion.
> > >
> > > Another similar issue: In the past Hadoop strived to
> > > maintain compatibility. However, this is no longer sustainable as more
> > CVEs
> > > coming from our dependencies: netty, jetty, jackson ... etc.
> > > In many cases, updating the dependencies brings breaking changes. More
> > > recently, especially in Hadoop 3.x, I started to make the effort to
> > update
> > > dependencies much more frequently. How do users feel about this change?
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 7:58 AM Igor Dvorzhak <idv@google.com.invalid>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Maybe Hadoop will benefit from adopting a similar release and support
> > >> strategy as Java? I.e. designate some releases as LTS and support them
> > for
> > >> 2 (?) years (it seems that 2.7.x branch was de-facto LTS), other
> non-LTS
> > >> releases will be supported for 6 months (or until next release). This
> > >> should allow to reduce maintenance cost of non-LTS release and provide
> > >> conservative users desired stability by allowing them to wait for new
> > LTS
> > >> release and upgrading to it.
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 1:26 AM Rupert Mazzucco <
> > rupert.mazzucco@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> After recently jumping from 2.7.7 to 2.10 without issue myself, I
> vote
> > >>> for keeping only the 2.10 line.
> > >>> It would seem all other 2.x branches can upgrade to a 2.10.x easily
> if
> > >>> they feel like upgrading at all,
> > >>> unlike a jump to 3.x, which may require more planning.
> > >>>
> > >>> I also vote for having only one main 3.x branch. Why are there 3.1.x
> > and
> > >>> 3.2.x seemingly competing,
> > >>> and now 3.3.x? For a community that does not have the resources to
> > >>> manage multiple release lines,
> > >>> you guys sure like to multiply release lines a lot.
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheers
> > >>> Rupert
> > >>>
> > >>> Am Mi., 4. März 2020 um 19:40 Uhr schrieb Wei-Chiu Chuang
> > >>> <weichiu@cloudera.com.invalid>:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Forwarding the discussion thread from the dev mailing lists to
the
> > user
> > >>>> mailing lists.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'd like to get an idea of how many users are still on Hadoop 2.9.
> > >>>> Please share your thoughts.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 6:30 PM Sree Vaddi
> > >>>> <sree_at_chess@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> +1
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>   On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 5:12 PM, Wei-Chiu Chuang<
> weichiu@apache.org
> > >
> > >>>>> wrote:   Hi,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Following the discussion to end branch-2.8, I want to start
a
> > >>>>> discussion
> > >>>>> around what's next with branch-2.9. I am hesitant to use the
word
> > "end
> > >>>>> of
> > >>>>> life" but consider these facts:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> * 2.9.0 was released Dec 17, 2017.
> > >>>>> * 2.9.2, the last 2.9.x release, went out Nov 19 2018, which
is
> more
> > >>>>> than
> > >>>>> 15 months ago.
> > >>>>> * no one seems to be interested in being the release manager
for
> > 2.9.3.
> > >>>>> * Most if not all of the active Hadoop contributors are using
> Hadoop
> > >>>>> 2.10
> > >>>>> or Hadoop 3.x.
> > >>>>> * We as a community do not have the cycle to manage multiple
> release
> > >>>>> line,
> > >>>>> especially since Hadoop 3.3.0 is coming out soon.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> It is perhaps the time to gradually reduce our footprint in
Hadoop
> > >>>>> 2.x, and
> > >>>>> encourage people to upgrade to Hadoop 3.x
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thoughts?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> >
>
>
> --
> L
>

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