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From Akira Ajisaka <aajis...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] fate of branch-2.9
Date Fri, 28 Aug 2020 08:59:25 GMT
+1

Thanks,
Akira

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:51 PM lisheng.sun08 <lisheng.sun08@gmail.com>
wrote:

> +1 on EOL of branch-2.9.
>
> Thanks,
> Lisheng Sun
>
>
>
> 发自我的小米手机
> 在 2020年8月27日 下午1:55,Wei-Chiu Chuang <weichiu@apache.org>写道:
>
> Bump up this thread after 6 months.
>
> Is anyone still interested in the 2.9 release line? Or are we good to
> start
> the EOL process? The 2.9.2 was released in Nov 2018.
>
> I'd really like to see the community to converge to fewer release lines
> and
> make more frequent releases in each line.
>
> Thanks,
> Weichiu
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 5:47 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <weichiu@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > I think that's a great suggestion.
> > Currently, we make 1 minor release per year, and within each minor
> release
> > we bring up 1 thousand to 2 thousand commits in it compared with the
> > previous one.
> > I can totally understand it is a big bite for users to swallow. Having a
> > more frequent release cycle, plus LTS and non-LTS releases should help
> with
> > this. (Of course we will need to make the release preparation much
> easier,
> > which is currently a pain)
> >
> > I am happy to discuss the release model further in the dev ML. LTS v.s.
> > non-LTS is one suggestion.
> >
> > Another similar issue: In the past Hadoop strived to
> > maintain compatibility. However, this is no longer sustainable as more
> CVEs
> > coming from our dependencies: netty, jetty, jackson ... etc.
> > In many cases, updating the dependencies brings breaking changes. More
> > recently, especially in Hadoop 3.x, I started to make the effort to
> update
> > dependencies much more frequently. How do users feel about this change?
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 7:58 AM Igor Dvorzhak <idv@google.com.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Maybe Hadoop will benefit from adopting a similar release and support
> >> strategy as Java? I.e. designate some releases as LTS and support them
> for
> >> 2 (?) years (it seems that 2.7.x branch was de-facto LTS), other
> non-LTS
> >> releases will be supported for 6 months (or until next release). This
> >> should allow to reduce maintenance cost of non-LTS release and provide
> >> conservative users desired stability by allowing them to wait for new
> LTS
> >> release and upgrading to it.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 1:26 AM Rupert Mazzucco <
> rupert.mazzucco@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> After recently jumping from 2.7.7 to 2.10 without issue myself, I vote
> >>> for keeping only the 2.10 line.
> >>> It would seem all other 2.x branches can upgrade to a 2.10.x easily if
> >>> they feel like upgrading at all,
> >>> unlike a jump to 3.x, which may require more planning.
> >>>
> >>> I also vote for having only one main 3.x branch. Why are there 3.1.x
> and
> >>> 3.2.x seemingly competing,
> >>> and now 3.3.x? For a community that does not have the resources to
> >>> manage multiple release lines,
> >>> you guys sure like to multiply release lines a lot.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Rupert
> >>>
> >>> Am Mi., 4. März 2020 um 19:40 Uhr schrieb Wei-Chiu Chuang
> >>> <weichiu@cloudera.com.invalid>:
> >>>
> >>>> Forwarding the discussion thread from the dev mailing lists to the
> user
> >>>> mailing lists.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd like to get an idea of how many users are still on Hadoop 2.9.
> >>>> Please share your thoughts.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 6:30 PM Sree Vaddi
> >>>> <sree_at_chess@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> +1
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 5:12 PM, Wei-Chiu Chuang<weichiu@apache.org>
>
> >>>>> wrote:   Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Following the discussion to end branch-2.8, I want to start a
> >>>>> discussion
> >>>>> around what's next with branch-2.9. I am hesitant to use the word
> "end
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> life" but consider these facts:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * 2.9.0 was released Dec 17, 2017.
> >>>>> * 2.9.2, the last 2.9.x release, went out Nov 19 2018, which is
more
> >>>>> than
> >>>>> 15 months ago.
> >>>>> * no one seems to be interested in being the release manager for
> 2.9.3.
> >>>>> * Most if not all of the active Hadoop contributors are using Hadoop
> >>>>> 2.10
> >>>>> or Hadoop 3.x.
> >>>>> * We as a community do not have the cycle to manage multiple release
> >>>>> line,
> >>>>> especially since Hadoop 3.3.0 is coming out soon.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is perhaps the time to gradually reduce our footprint in Hadoop
> >>>>> 2.x, and
> >>>>> encourage people to upgrade to Hadoop 3.x
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
>
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