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From Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Proposed Release: 2.7.7 = 2.7.6 + ML + extra fixed bugs
Date Thu, 19 Sep 2019 17:00:04 GMT
Ok, let's start an official discussion about 2.8 release and select the one
who will be driving/managing it.

-
Denis


On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:01 AM Nikolay Izhikov <nizhikov@apache.org> wrote:

> Scope:
>
> * master fixes
> * ML improvements
> * IEP-35: Metric + System views.
> * New implementation of Service Grid
>
>
> В Чт, 19/09/2019 в 18:56 +0300, Maxim Muzafarov пишет:
> > Alexey, Denis,
> >
> > I've always thought that we are living in a paradigm that `the master
> > branch is the release ready branch`. Don't we? If so, then we should
> > take additional attention to commits we make, because it's true that
> > we have some `blocker` release issues in the master branch. I also
> > think all these issues are solvable and 2+ months is more than enough
> > to fix them. Am I missing something?
> >
> > I'm +1 for 2.8 release. We should not hold the master branch for years.
> >
> > On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 17:52, Alexey Zinoviev <zaleslaw.sin@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > No objection from my side if somebody could say that master is ready or
> > > will be ready to release in a few months
> > >
> > > чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 14:21, Nikolay Izhikov <nizhikov@apache.org>:
> > >
> > > > +1 for 2.8 from me
> > > >
> > > > Scope:
> > > >
> > > > * master fixes
> > > > * ML improvements
> > > > * IEP-35: Metric + System views.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > В Чт, 19/09/2019 в 14:14 +0300, Pavel Tupitsyn пишет:
> > > > > +1 for 2.8
> > > > >
> > > > > We should not hold master anymore, it has been a year already.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:42 PM Dmitriy Pavlov <dpavlov@apache.org
> >
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I like both options 2.7.7 & 2.8 both have their benefits.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But someday we will anyway need to release master state. Let's
> not
> > > >
> > > > freeze
> > > > > > master for years as Zookeeper did with 3.0.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So I like option with 2.8 release more.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > >
> > > > > > чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 01:42, Denis Magda <dmagda@apache.org>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2.8 release cycle can last for many months due to a number
of
> issues
> > > >
> > > > and
> > > > > > > regressions we need to address. It can easily slip to the
next
> year,
> > > > > > > especially considering the holiday season. An alternate
> solution can
> > > >
> > > > be a
> > > > > > > series of Ignite 2.7.x releases that are becoming more
> hardened with
> > > >
> > > > each
> > > > > > > version and go with a small and manageable changeset. For
> instance,
> > > >
> > > > ML
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > Thin Clients optimizations with fixes for newly discovered
> critical
> > > > > >
> > > > > > issues
> > > > > > > can be released in 2.7.7 and 2.7.8.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As for 2.8, what exactly are we planning to release there?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > Denis
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 3:43 AM Nikolay Izhikov <
> nizhikov@apache.org
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Start of December for 2.8 sounds good.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 13:38 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev
пишет:
> > > > > > > > > Sounds good for me, I will be ready to release
ML module
> till 1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > December
> > > > > > > > > (end of September is not appropriate for ML module
due to
> known
> > > > > >
> > > > > > issues
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > bugs)
> > > > > > > > > If the whole Ignite could be released to this
date I will
> be
> > > >
> > > > happy in
> > > > > > > > > another case I suggest the minor release by the
formula
> mentioned
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > above.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Let's ask another module maintainers here?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ср, 18 сент. 2019 г. в 13:00, Maxim Muzafarov
<
> mmuzaf@apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > > :
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Folks,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Agree, we should start a discussion about
releasing
> Apache
> > > >
> > > > Ignite
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2.8
> > > > > > > > > > version right after 2.7.6 will be announced.
> > > > > > > > > > Am I missing something?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 12:33, Nikolay Izhikov
<
> > > >
> > > > nizhikov@apache.org
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > of 2.7 release
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It's 2.8, of course. Sorry, for typo.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:36 +0300,
Nikolay Izhikov пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, Alexey
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > we have no chance to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > release the whole master
branch
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you think so?
> > > > > > > > > > > > From my point of view, we should
start discussion of
> 2.7
> > > > > >
> > > > > > release,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > shortly(end of September of similar)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:04 +0300,
Alexey Zinoviev
> пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Igniters, for the whole
year I'm waiting for
> the
> > > >
> > > > next
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > release of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache Ignite with number
2.8 or 3.0. As I
> understand we
> > > >
> > > > have
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > chance to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > release the whole master
branch, but we have cool
> > > >
> > > > changes in
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ML
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > component
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that were not released since
2.7 (Nomember 2018).
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm ready to become a release
manager of the
> special
> > > >
> > > > release
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > the taste
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of new ML by the formula:
2.7.6 plus new ML plus
> all
> > > >
> > > > known
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > fixed
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > issues for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.7.6 release.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Reason: ML has a limited
dependency on core/sql
> > > >
> > > > component and
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > delivered without major changes
in 2.7.6
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope to found the support
from the community
> side and
> > > >
> > > > maybe
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > deliver
> > > > > > > > > > > > > another components like Thin
Clients, Spark
> integration
> > > >
> > > > and
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > another
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ready
> > > > > > > > > > > > > component without strong
ties with core component
> in the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > future
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > according
> > > > > > > > > > > > > this way (in release 2.7.9
for example)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think, Igniters?
>

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