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From Ilya Kasnacheev <ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Stop sending IGNITE Created e-mails to dev@
Date Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:01:18 GMT
Hello!

Thank you for doing that.

Regards,
-- 
Ilya Kasnacheev


ср, 28 апр. 2021 г. в 10:58, Ivan Pavlukhin <vololo100@gmail.com>:

> Ilya,
>
> > You can mention it on the wiki if you know where.
>
> It is sad that we intentionally add some magics and secrets to the project.
>
> I have not found a good section in wiki for that and added a new dumb
> section [1].
>
> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/How+to+subscribe+for+%5BJIRA%5D+%5BCreated%5D+notifications
>
> 2021-04-27 20:02 GMT+03:00, Pavel Pereslegin <xxtern@gmail.com>:
> > Hello Ilya.
> >
> > Could you please add me to "Contributors 1" too?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > вт, 27 апр. 2021 г. в 18:51, Ilya Kasnacheev <ilya.kasnacheev@gmail.com
> >:
> >>
> >> Hello!
> >>
> >> I think that role names are per-JIRA global, we can't rename them on a
> >> per
> >> project basis.
> >>
> >> It exists for very large projects to put more contributors on, we don't
> >> use
> >> it so I changed its meaning. You can mention it on the wiki if you know
> >> where. I'm not sure if it belongs on "how to contribute" because most of
> >> new contributors don't need new issies feed.
> >>
> >> Slava, I have added you to the role also.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> --
> >> Ilya Kasnacheev
> >>
> >>
> >> вт, 27 апр. 2021 г. в 11:39, Dmitriy Pavlov <dpavlov@apache.org>:
> >>
> >> > I guess so. It was always not clear for me why do we have
> 'contributors
> >> > 1'
> >> > role.
> >> >
> >> > It might worth to rename role itself to contibutors with
> notifications.
> >> >
> >> > Sincerely,
> >> > Dmitriy Pavlov
> >> >
> >> > пн, 26 апр. 2021 г., 13:01 Ivan Pavlukhin <vololo100@gmail.com>:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi Ilya,
> >> > >
> >> > > > I have added you to "Contributors 1" role. Everybody in this
role
> >> > > > will
> >> > > still get those "issue created" e-mail.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thank you for that!
> >> > >
> >> > > Should not we mention this tweak with "Contributors 1" role
> somewhere
> >> > > in advanced how-to-contribute page?
> >> > >
> >> > > 2021-04-26 12:28 GMT+03:00, Ilya Kasnacheev
> >> > > <ilya.kasnacheev@gmail.com>:
> >> > > > Hello!
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I have added you to "Contributors 1" role. Everybody in this
role
> >> > > > will
> >> > > > still get those "issue created" e-mail.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Feel free in asking me to enlist.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Regards,
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > Ilya Kasnacheev
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > чт, 22 апр. 2021 г. в 18:16, Ivan Pavlukhin <vololo100@gmail.com
> >:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> > All issues notifications are also sent to
> >> > > >> > issues@ignite.apache.org
> >> > so
> >> > > >> one can subscribe to this list in order to track the created
> >> > > >> tickets.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Does not sound as useful advice. Issues list [1] looks like
real
> >> > > >> scrapyard, I doubt that it can be usable for anyone in current
> >> > > >> flavor.
> >> > > >> Can we send only "Created" notifications there?
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> [1] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?issues@ignite.apache.org
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> 2021-04-21 18:30 GMT+03:00, Ilya Kasnacheev <
> >> > ilya.kasnacheev@gmail.com
> >> > > >:
> >> > > >> > Hello!
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > INFRA ticket created:
> >> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21762
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > I have asked to keep sending the created issue notifications
> for
> >> > > >> > "Contributors 1" role, which is empty at present. So
if you
> wish
> >> > > >> > to
> >> > > >> > keep
> >> > > >> > getting those e-mails, please add yourself to this role
or tell
> >> > > >> > me
> >> > to
> >> > > >> > do
> >> > > >> so
> >> > > >> > for you.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > Regards,
> >> > > >> > --
> >> > > >> > Ilya Kasnacheev
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > ср, 21 апр. 2021 г. в 17:59, Alexey Goncharuk
<
> >> > > >> alexey.goncharuk@gmail.com>:
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >> I support the idea. All issues notifications are
also sent to
> >> > > >> >> issues@ignite.apache.org so one can subscribe to
this list in
> >> > order
> >> > > to
> >> > > >> >> track the created tickets. The notifications trash
the devlist
> >> > > archive
> >> > > >> UI
> >> > > >> >> and make it extremely difficult to navigate.
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> вт, 20 апр. 2021 г. в 18:35, Ilya Kasnacheev
> >> > > >> >> <ilya.kasnacheev@gmail.com
> >> > > >> >:
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> > Hello, Maxim!
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > You are free to revert any commit which has
led to any new
> >> > > >> >> > stable
> >> > > >> >> > test
> >> > > >> >> > failure, or new flaky test that was non-flaky
before.
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > Just revert the change and reopen the ticket.
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > The problem here is that it's very hard to
detect on the
> >> > > >> >> > spot,
> >> > most
> >> > > >> >> > of
> >> > > >> >> > MTCGA e-mails are false positives and even
if they are not,
> it
> >> > > >> >> > is
> >> > > >> >> > not
> >> > > >> >> > relevant for most of developers.
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > WDYT? I'm also still waiting for more input.
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > Regards,
> >> > > >> >> > --
> >> > > >> >> > Ilya Kasnacheev
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > ср, 14 апр. 2021 г. в 21:26, Maxim Muzafarov
> >> > > >> >> > <mmuzaf@apache.org
> >> > >:
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > > +1 for new JIRA issues
> >> > > >> >> > > -1 for MTCGA notifications
> >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > >> >> > > Why we should hide errors from the dev-list?
Who should
> >> > > >> >> > > take
> >> > care
> >> > > >> >> > > of
> >> > > >> >> > > issues reported by MTCGA.Bot in this case?
> >> > > >> >> > > We must apply stricter rules for such
issues: a commit
> >> > > >> >> > > leading
> >> > to
> >> > > >> >> > > an
> >> > > >> >> > > error must be reverted.
> >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > >> >> > > On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 at 20:00, Denis Mekhanikov
> >> > > >> >> > > <dmekhanikov@gmail.com>
> >> > > >> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > Huge +1 to this.
> >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > I've already brought up this topic
in the past:
> >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > >
> >> >
> http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Bots-on-dev-list-td34406.html
> >> > > >> >> > > > I hope some day newcomers won't need
to set up their
> >> > > >> >> > > > email
> >> > > >> >> > > > filters
> >> > > >> >> when
> >> > > >> >> > > > they come to the developers list.
> >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > Denis
> >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > ср, 14 апр. 2021 г. в 18:07,
Atri Sharma
> >> > > >> >> > > > <atri@apache.org>:
> >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > > +1 to move issues to the issues
list.
> >> > > >> >> > > > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > > For MTCGA, maybe build@?
> >> > > >> >> > > > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 8:35
PM Ilya Kasnacheev
> >> > > >> >> > > > > <ilyak@apache.org>
> >> > > >> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > Hello!
> >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > We have a discussion on
how to ensure best
> engagement
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > in
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > dev@
> >> > > >> >> > list,
> >> > > >> >> > > and
> >> > > >> >> > > > > it
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > seems that Issue Created
emails from IGNITE project
> >> > consume
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > a
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > lot
> >> > > >> >> > of
> >> > > >> >> > > > > screen
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > space, it's hard to spot
genuine discussions in
> >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@ignite.apache.org
> >> > > for
> >> > > >> >> > > example.
> >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > We already have issues@
mailing list. I propose
> that
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > we
> >> > > stop
> >> > > >> >> > > sending any
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > JIRA emails to dev@. If
anyone wishes to get just
> >> > Created
> >> > > >> >> emails,
> >> > > >> >> > > they
> >> > > >> >> > > > > can
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > subscribe to these messages
in their JIRA account
> >> > settings.
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > I
> >> > > >> >> > imagine
> >> > > >> >> > > > > most
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > of you already filter these
messages out, so you may
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > need
> >> > > to
> >> > > >> >> adjust
> >> > > >> >> > > your
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > filters slightly.
> >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > A distant second is MTCGA
messages, which are also
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > autogenerated
> >> > > >> >> > and
> >> > > >> >> > > not
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > informative for most readers
of the channel, since
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > they
> >> > are
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > at
> >> > > >> >> best
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > targeted at a single committer
and at worst flaky.
> >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > Where could we move those?
What is your opinion
> here,
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > on
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > both
> >> > > >> >> > issues?
> >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > > > Regards,
> >> > > >> >> > > > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > > --
> >> > > >> >> > > > > Regards,
> >> > > >> >> > > > >
> >> > > >> >> > > > > Atri
> >> > > >> >> > > > > Apache Concerted
> >> > > >> >> > > > >
> >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> --
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Best regards,
> >> > > >> Ivan Pavlukhin
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > >
> >> > > Best regards,
> >> > > Ivan Pavlukhin
> >> > >
> >> >
> >
>
>
> --
>
> Best regards,
> Ivan Pavlukhin
>

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