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From Ivan Pavlukhin <vololo...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Stop sending IGNITE Created e-mails to dev@
Date Wed, 28 Apr 2021 07:57:56 GMT
Ilya,

> You can mention it on the wiki if you know where.

It is sad that we intentionally add some magics and secrets to the project.

I have not found a good section in wiki for that and added a new dumb
section [1].

[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/How+to+subscribe+for+%5BJIRA%5D+%5BCreated%5D+notifications

2021-04-27 20:02 GMT+03:00, Pavel Pereslegin <xxtern@gmail.com>:
> Hello Ilya.
>
> Could you please add me to "Contributors 1" too?
>
> Thank you.
>
> вт, 27 апр. 2021 г. в 18:51, Ilya Kasnacheev <ilya.kasnacheev@gmail.com>:
>>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I think that role names are per-JIRA global, we can't rename them on a
>> per
>> project basis.
>>
>> It exists for very large projects to put more contributors on, we don't
>> use
>> it so I changed its meaning. You can mention it on the wiki if you know
>> where. I'm not sure if it belongs on "how to contribute" because most of
>> new contributors don't need new issies feed.
>>
>> Slava, I have added you to the role also.
>>
>> Regards,
>> --
>> Ilya Kasnacheev
>>
>>
>> вт, 27 апр. 2021 г. в 11:39, Dmitriy Pavlov <dpavlov@apache.org>:
>>
>> > I guess so. It was always not clear for me why do we have 'contributors
>> > 1'
>> > role.
>> >
>> > It might worth to rename role itself to contibutors with notifications.
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> > Dmitriy Pavlov
>> >
>> > пн, 26 апр. 2021 г., 13:01 Ivan Pavlukhin <vololo100@gmail.com>:
>> >
>> > > Hi Ilya,
>> > >
>> > > > I have added you to "Contributors 1" role. Everybody in this role
>> > > > will
>> > > still get those "issue created" e-mail.
>> > >
>> > > Thank you for that!
>> > >
>> > > Should not we mention this tweak with "Contributors 1" role somewhere
>> > > in advanced how-to-contribute page?
>> > >
>> > > 2021-04-26 12:28 GMT+03:00, Ilya Kasnacheev
>> > > <ilya.kasnacheev@gmail.com>:
>> > > > Hello!
>> > > >
>> > > > I have added you to "Contributors 1" role. Everybody in this role
>> > > > will
>> > > > still get those "issue created" e-mail.
>> > > >
>> > > > Feel free in asking me to enlist.
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards,
>> > > > --
>> > > > Ilya Kasnacheev
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > чт, 22 апр. 2021 г. в 18:16, Ivan Pavlukhin <vololo100@gmail.com>:
>> > > >
>> > > >> > All issues notifications are also sent to
>> > > >> > issues@ignite.apache.org
>> > so
>> > > >> one can subscribe to this list in order to track the created
>> > > >> tickets.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Does not sound as useful advice. Issues list [1] looks like real
>> > > >> scrapyard, I doubt that it can be usable for anyone in current
>> > > >> flavor.
>> > > >> Can we send only "Created" notifications there?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> [1] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?issues@ignite.apache.org
>> > > >>
>> > > >> 2021-04-21 18:30 GMT+03:00, Ilya Kasnacheev <
>> > ilya.kasnacheev@gmail.com
>> > > >:
>> > > >> > Hello!
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > INFRA ticket created:
>> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21762
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > I have asked to keep sending the created issue notifications
for
>> > > >> > "Contributors 1" role, which is empty at present. So if you
wish
>> > > >> > to
>> > > >> > keep
>> > > >> > getting those e-mails, please add yourself to this role or
tell
>> > > >> > me
>> > to
>> > > >> > do
>> > > >> so
>> > > >> > for you.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Regards,
>> > > >> > --
>> > > >> > Ilya Kasnacheev
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > ср, 21 апр. 2021 г. в 17:59, Alexey Goncharuk <
>> > > >> alexey.goncharuk@gmail.com>:
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >> I support the idea. All issues notifications are also
sent to
>> > > >> >> issues@ignite.apache.org so one can subscribe to this
list in
>> > order
>> > > to
>> > > >> >> track the created tickets. The notifications trash the
devlist
>> > > archive
>> > > >> UI
>> > > >> >> and make it extremely difficult to navigate.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> вт, 20 апр. 2021 г. в 18:35, Ilya Kasnacheev
>> > > >> >> <ilya.kasnacheev@gmail.com
>> > > >> >:
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> > Hello, Maxim!
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> > You are free to revert any commit which has led
to any new
>> > > >> >> > stable
>> > > >> >> > test
>> > > >> >> > failure, or new flaky test that was non-flaky before.
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> > Just revert the change and reopen the ticket.
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> > The problem here is that it's very hard to detect
on the
>> > > >> >> > spot,
>> > most
>> > > >> >> > of
>> > > >> >> > MTCGA e-mails are false positives and even if they
are not, it
>> > > >> >> > is
>> > > >> >> > not
>> > > >> >> > relevant for most of developers.
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> > WDYT? I'm also still waiting for more input.
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> > Regards,
>> > > >> >> > --
>> > > >> >> > Ilya Kasnacheev
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> > ср, 14 апр. 2021 г. в 21:26, Maxim Muzafarov
>> > > >> >> > <mmuzaf@apache.org
>> > >:
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> > > +1 for new JIRA issues
>> > > >> >> > > -1 for MTCGA notifications
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> > > Why we should hide errors from the dev-list?
Who should
>> > > >> >> > > take
>> > care
>> > > >> >> > > of
>> > > >> >> > > issues reported by MTCGA.Bot in this case?
>> > > >> >> > > We must apply stricter rules for such issues:
a commit
>> > > >> >> > > leading
>> > to
>> > > >> >> > > an
>> > > >> >> > > error must be reverted.
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> > > On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 at 20:00, Denis Mekhanikov
>> > > >> >> > > <dmekhanikov@gmail.com>
>> > > >> >> > > wrote:
>> > > >> >> > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > Huge +1 to this.
>> > > >> >> > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > I've already brought up this topic in
the past:
>> > > >> >> > > >
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> > http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Bots-on-dev-list-td34406.html
>> > > >> >> > > > I hope some day newcomers won't need to
set up their
>> > > >> >> > > > email
>> > > >> >> > > > filters
>> > > >> >> when
>> > > >> >> > > > they come to the developers list.
>> > > >> >> > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > Denis
>> > > >> >> > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > ср, 14 апр. 2021 г. в 18:07, Atri
Sharma
>> > > >> >> > > > <atri@apache.org>:
>> > > >> >> > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > +1 to move issues to the issues list.
>> > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > For MTCGA, maybe build@?
>> > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 8:35 PM Ilya
Kasnacheev
>> > > >> >> > > > > <ilyak@apache.org>
>> > > >> >> > > wrote:
>> > > >> >> > > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > > Hello!
>> > > >> >> > > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > > We have a discussion on how
to ensure best engagement
>> > > >> >> > > > > > in
>> > > >> >> > > > > > dev@
>> > > >> >> > list,
>> > > >> >> > > and
>> > > >> >> > > > > it
>> > > >> >> > > > > > seems that Issue Created emails
from IGNITE project
>> > consume
>> > > >> >> > > > > > a
>> > > >> >> > > > > > lot
>> > > >> >> > of
>> > > >> >> > > > > screen
>> > > >> >> > > > > > space, it's hard to spot genuine
discussions in
>> > > >> >> > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@ignite.apache.org
>> > > for
>> > > >> >> > > example.
>> > > >> >> > > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > > We already have issues@ mailing
list. I propose that
>> > > >> >> > > > > > we
>> > > stop
>> > > >> >> > > sending any
>> > > >> >> > > > > > JIRA emails to dev@. If anyone
wishes to get just
>> > Created
>> > > >> >> emails,
>> > > >> >> > > they
>> > > >> >> > > > > can
>> > > >> >> > > > > > subscribe to these messages
in their JIRA account
>> > settings.
>> > > >> >> > > > > > I
>> > > >> >> > imagine
>> > > >> >> > > > > most
>> > > >> >> > > > > > of you already filter these
messages out, so you may
>> > > >> >> > > > > > need
>> > > to
>> > > >> >> adjust
>> > > >> >> > > your
>> > > >> >> > > > > > filters slightly.
>> > > >> >> > > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > > A distant second is MTCGA messages,
which are also
>> > > >> >> > > > > > autogenerated
>> > > >> >> > and
>> > > >> >> > > not
>> > > >> >> > > > > > informative for most readers
of the channel, since
>> > > >> >> > > > > > they
>> > are
>> > > >> >> > > > > > at
>> > > >> >> best
>> > > >> >> > > > > > targeted at a single committer
and at worst flaky.
>> > > >> >> > > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > > Where could we move those? What
is your opinion here,
>> > > >> >> > > > > > on
>> > > >> >> > > > > > both
>> > > >> >> > issues?
>> > > >> >> > > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > > Regards,
>> > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > --
>> > > >> >> > > > > Regards,
>> > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > Atri
>> > > >> >> > > > > Apache Concerted
>> > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> --
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Best regards,
>> > > >> Ivan Pavlukhin
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > >
>> > > Best regards,
>> > > Ivan Pavlukhin
>> > >
>> >
>


-- 

Best regards,
Ivan Pavlukhin

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