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From Christian Schneider <ch...@die-schneider.net>
Subject Re: Database commands for Karaf
Date Sun, 15 Jan 2012 08:08:38 GMT
Hi Andreas,

I am ok with a subproject though I think the code is currently much too 
small to warrant a subproject. That may change of course.
Outside of Karaf I see no obvious host projects for generic commands 
like db or jms. By design these commands should not be provider
specific. So a specific DB or JMS Provider project would be the wrong 
place in my opinion. The only place I could imagine outside of Karaf is 
I will ask at the aries project if there is interest in these commands.

If we aim to host the code at Karaf I propose to put the db and upcoming 
jms commands in Karaf at the moment and include them in the enterprise 
features. When they grow we could
establish something like an Enterprise subproject. There we could put 
code that is not really fcous of Karaf but is typically needed for 
Enterprise development.


Am 14.01.2012 10:13, schrieb Andreas Pieber:
> I really like those ideas. Both of them, but I'm not sure if Karaf is the
> right location for them. I think it would be better to locate them at the
> target projects if possible (amq, aries, ...) or create Karaf subprojects
> if this is not possible. But I've no problem with including them into e.g.
> the enterprise features.xml.
> Kind regards,
> Andreas
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 18:11, Christian Schneider
> <chris@die-schneider.net>wrote:
>> jms ConnectionFactory would be another interesting theme for commands.
>> We could also allow to define ConnectionFactories as OSGi services
>> (ActiveMQ already does it by default).
>> So commands for jms could be like:
>> jms:select ->  select ConnectionFactory to use
>> jms:create-dest ->  create destination
>> jms:delete-dest ->  delete destination
>> jms:list ->  list destinations
>> jms:browse ->  browse queue
>> jms:send ->  send message
>> jms:move ->  move a message from one dest to another
>> jms:listen ->  Watch live messages
>> A bit similar to the activemq commands but for any jms provider
>> Christian
>> Am 13.01.2012 17:25, schrieb jb@nanthrax.net:
>>   +1
>>> But maybe in Aries as we have connection factory, etc ?
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>> --
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> Talend - http://wwx.talend.com
>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>> From: "Christian Schneider"<chris@die-**schneider.net<chris@die-schneider.net>
>>> To:<dev@karaf.apache.org>
>>> Subject: Database commands for Karaf
>>> Date: Fri, Jan 13, 2012 5:13 pm
>>> Hi all,
>>> as part of my Karaf Tutorial about database access I have writte some
>>> handy Karaf shell commands for databases.
>>> They are described with screen dumps in my Tutorial
>>> http://www.liquid-reality.de/**x/LYBk<http://www.liquid-reality.de/x/LYBk>.
>>> Especially for embedded databases like derby and h2 I missed a simple
>>> access to the database for a long time. So I think these commands could
>>> be interesting for many developers.
>>> So I would like to add them to Karaf and also add a feature for them. Of
>>> course DB commands are not the core domain of Karaf so this is surely
>>> nothing for the Karaf minimal distro but I propose to add them to the
>>> standard distro.
>>> The reasons are simple:
>>> - I think many people could have use for the commands
>>> - They add no dependencies
>>> - The code is really small (just 16kb)
>>> Christian
>> --
>> Christian Schneider
>> http://www.liquid-reality.de
>> Open Source Architect
>> Talend Application Integration Division http://www.talend.com


Christian Schneider

Open Source Architect
Talend Application Integration Division http://www.talend.com

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