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From Ceki Gülcü <c...@qos.ch>
Subject Re: [POLL] Moving UGLI outside Apache?
Date Wed, 06 Apr 2005 14:55:22 GMT

By the way, suggestions for the project names are also welcome.

At 02:33 PM 4/6/2005, you wrote:

>Greetings to all,
>As a result of discussions held on this list and on commons-dev, I
>think starting a new project based on or similar to UGLI outside
>Apache Logging Services would benefit the wider OS community.
>For one, many open source projects based on GPL or LGPL licenses
>refuse to adopt log4j because of its Apache license which they deem
>incompatible with their own. Whether the Apache Software license is
>incompatible with GPL or LGPL is a matter of debate beyond the scope
>of this email note. I am merely relaying the position adopted by the
>Free Software Foundation, whose opinion carries considerable weight in
>the open source world.
>Given  UGLI's tiny  size,  I  think we  should  consider changing  its
>license to BSD or MIT, in  order to facilitate its wider adoption.  As
>an immediate consequence,  we would need to move  UGLI outside the ASF
>because the foundation will not host software not Apache licensed.
>Just as importantly, I think the lessons learned from the JCL
>experience warrant a new approach. A new start should allow for
>participants from the commons-dev community as well as Apache Logging
>Services to share their knowledge in more open and cordial atmosphere.
>Do you think starting a new project, based or similar to UGLI outside
>the ASF is an option worth exploring?  Other comments? Opinions?
>Ceki Gülcü
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