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From Marcus <>
Subject Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?
Date Sat, 07 Nov 2015 19:57:20 GMT
All nice, but with a short of developers that could do any of the points 
you listed below, it's just a theoretical idea what could be done. ;-)

My 2 ct.


Am 11/07/2015 08:41 PM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
> There has been suggestion, and some expressed support, for AOO becoming a
> Java application.
> I don't want to discuss the merits of this, but how it might be undertaken.
>   1. NO STANDING-STILL ASSUMPTION. My first assumption is that one can't
> cease Apache OpenOffice maintenance and support while something like a
> redevelopment on Java occurs. It is pretty unthinkable that development of a
> Java version can be accomplished inside the release cycle (even the past
> lengthy cycle), and that migration from AOO as we know it can't be done like
> throwing a switch on the universe.  So, my first assumption, which one can
> challenge, is that any development of a Java version must happen separate
> from the ongoing support for the current AOO.
>   2. FORKING TO MAKE AOO4J?  One could consider making a project fork.  That
> doesn't make sense as an Apache project, going through incubation, having to
> do much from scratch.  But one could make an independent fork of a
> Java-based AOO (near) workalike. It could be a GitHub project, for example.
> If it is to come back to Apache, it must be sort of managed as an Apache
> Project from the beginning, especially around license and code provenance
> (IP) considerations.  That might be too hard.
>   3. EXPANDING THE ODF TOOLKIT PROJECT.  This is my favorite.  The Apache ODF
> Toolkit (incubating) project is Java-based already.  It deals with some
> fundamentals about supporting the OpenDocument Format (ODF).  One could
> imagine building up the modularization to the point where one could achieve
> Writer, Calc, ... etc., workalikes.  There, AOO4J could be a demonstration
> of composition of a suite (or even standalone components with shared
> libraries).  There are also available related applications for
> interoperability testing of the level of ODF support: Apache OpenOffice
> itself, LibreOffice, and Microsoft Office.  The support for Microsoft Office
> native formats could come from the POI projects and other open-source
> resources.
> The test of capacity is then one of how (2) or (3) manages to grow into a
> thriving project.  Meanwhile, AOO is sustained and there are no diversions
> until a natural migration occurs.
> How does any of that sound.  It means that there would be no revolutionary
> disruption of the Apache OpenOffice project itself.
>   - Dennis
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dennis E. Hamilton []
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 15:36
>> To:
>> Subject: RE: [QUESTION] Optional Java Use for Essential Functionality
>> Summary of what this thread revealed, in-line.
> [ ... ]
>> [orcmid] There were some unexpected responses to these questions.
>>   2. One suggestion was to remove the dependencies on Java.
>>   3. Other suggestions included increasing the dependencies on Java,
>> perhaps
>> going so far as to make AOO a Java application.
> [ ... ]
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