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From "Zhenhua (Gerald) Guo" <jen...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Help configuring Eclipse for Maven
Date Sun, 01 May 2011 00:32:17 GMT
I followed the steps and it worked like a charm.
As Ate mentioned, the "hot" deployment is a problem.  During my
initial use, I need to restart Tomcat (managed by eclipse) from time
to time to make it pick up new code changes.

Gerald

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Raminderjeet Singh
<raminderjsingh@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Ate for making it easier for eclipse development. I am successfully able to make
everything work using your story text :). Though i am not able to login as i am getting Your
login attempt was not successful, try again.
>
> Here is the additional information you may need and coping required steps from Ate's
email
>
> If you already have m2eclipse and imported the project without installing m2e-extras(
as i already used m2eclipse to import the project) then you need to delete the project (do
not delete content) and import it again in eclipse.
>
> I just summarized the steps and added additional information.
>
> 1. install m2eclipse and m2e-extras to eclipse following http://m2eclipse.sonatype.org/installing-m2eclipse.html.
> 2 Checkout the code from SVN using command line and build it with mvn before adding to
eclipse.
> 3 Import rave-project as "Existing Maven Project".
> 4. 0pen in Eclipse the rave-shindig project properties and go to the "Deployment Assembly"
section, you can add there additional packaging sources which will also be deployed to the
server.
> Press Add, select Directive Type "Folder", and select the target/rave-shindig-0.1-incubating-SNAPSHOT
folder.
> 5 Make sure to also configure the correct Context root paths for rave-portal ("portal")
and rave-shindig ("/") in their Eclipse project properties under "Web Project Settings".
> 6 Deploy rave-portal to eclipse embedded tomcat server. Right Click on rave-project >
Run As > Run on Server. you can add a server by going to Manually define a new server.
>
>
> Thanks
> Raminder
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Ate Douma wrote:
>
>> On 04/25/2011 11:05 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:
>>> On 25/04/2011 08:39, Unico Hommes wrote:
>>>
>>>> The only way I see ATM for a faster development cycle is to use
>>>> something like JRebel.
>>>
>>> Hmmm... I don't like the sound of that. JRebel is $189, that's rather alot for
>>> someone just wanting to do a few quick fixes. I'd rather we were configured in
>>> such a way as to be able to use whatever tools are common and thus attract as
>>> many developers as possible.
>>>
>>> Is this possible with Maven? Still exploring.
>>
>> I'll do my best to give some answers :)
>>
>> Its a long response, but there is quite some stuff to consider here, so please bear
with me.
>>
>> First of all, if you want to use Eclipse with Maven, I strongly suggest *not* using
the maven-eclipse-plugin. It doesn't properly handle more complex and especially not multi-module
projects.
>>
>> IMO the only reliable solution is using the m2eclipse plugin.
>> Before switching, make sure to remove all possible maven-eclipse-plugin generated
meta-data (or start from a clean svn checkout) as m2eclipse explicitly refuses to load maven-eclipse-plugin
initiated project configurations (!).
>> With m2eclipse either directly import from svn (Materialize as Maven project) or
import as Maven project after a command line svn checkout.
>>
>> The sonatype Maven Eclipse book explains how to setup Eclipse with m2eclipse, even
if its still lacking in detail on stuff like Eclipse WTP integration: http://www.sonatype.com/books/m2eclipse-book/reference/
>>
>> Note: If you want to run Tomcat embedded within Eclipse with, make sure to also install
the optional m2eclipe WTP plugin (m2e-extras).
>>
>> One more note: for svn integration within Eclipse you have two options: subclipse
and subversive. Although I haven't recently checked/reviewed the subclipse plugin in my experience
the subversive plugin is *much* better, especially with regard to multi-module maven projects.
>>
>> Now, concerning using Eclipse WTP vs maven+cargo+optionally JRebel.
>>
>> Eclipse WTP is usable, even with Rave (more details below), but definitely not perfect.
>> Part of that is caused by WTP itself: in my experience its still quite buggy, quirky,
slow and heavy.
>> And part of it is the still not great (but improving) maven/m2eclipse integration.
Especially the not yet (but see [1]) handling of war overlays, which is biting us with rave-shindig,
is a major pain in the @ss.
>>
>> I'm not all too familiar with other IDEs like Netbeans or IntelliJ if they do this
better, maybe they do...
>>
>> Anyway, the "issue" with the rave-shindig module is that it is using the maven-war-plugin
war overlay feature. Eclipe WTP/m2eclipse simply isn't aware of this, so the only things that
gets deployed to the server are the resources defined by the rave-shindig project itself,
meaning: effectively "broken".
>> To fix this in a WTP expected way, we would have to *fork* the Apache shindig server
project itself into the rave-shindig project, which IMO isn't an option. Especially not if
you check how the shindig server project is build...
>>
>> However, I have somewhat of a workaround.
>>
>> First make sure you already (maven) build rave-shindig.
>> If you open in Eclipse the rave-shindig project properties and go to the "Deployment
Assembly" section, you can add there additional packaging sources which will also be deployed
to the server.
>> Press Add, select Directive Type "Folder", and select the target/rave-shindig-0.1-incubating-SNAPSHOT
folder.
>> As result, it will overlay the full rave-shindig war target folder to Tomcat, and
it actually works when you run the server from Eclipse.
>>
>> BTW: make sure to also configure the correct Context root paths for rave-portal ("portal")
and rave-shindig ("/") in their Eclipse project properties under "Web Project Settings".
>>
>> Clearly, the above solution isn't perfect, but that's the status of Eclipse WTP and
maven integration. Hopefully with the promises from [1] this might get better sometime soon.
>>
>> So what are the alternatives?
>> a) a different preferred IDE, maybe Netbeans or IntelliJ
>> b) use maven to run/manage the runtime container and use remote debugging
>>
>> For a) I'm inclined to say we should allow and support developers to use any IDE
of their choice, which means *also* Eclipse.
>>
>> AFAIK IntelliJ Community Edition doesn't support server deployment at all, nor does
it have proper/full Maven or Web development integration. If you want to use IntelliJ you'll
then need a commercial (or free for open source project) license similar to JRebel.
>>
>> Netbeans, I don't really know anymore. Never liked it as IDE but nowadays it seems
to have great Maven integration (so I hear).
>>
>> This leads to my own preference to go with b), at least until [1] gets moving and
working properly.
>>
>> By using maven/cargo to deploy and run the container we can stick to a single configuration
which works with all IDEs, and important: is exactly the same for standalone or console based
development/deployment.
>> The maven-cargo-plugin already is configured to support remote debugging out-of-the-box,
so remote Java debugging from Eclipse/Netbeans/IntelliJ is trivial to setup.
>>
>> What then is problematic is "hot resource/code replacement" from the IDE. And for
that JRebel really is a killer solution which works perfectly with all IDEs. Even (much) better
than what you get through the embedded debugging with Eclipse WTP, Netbeans or IntelliJ alone.
Maybe there are other alternatives to JRebel but I haven't found them yet.
>>
>> I'm not saying that we all should start using JRebel, but as Rave committers we can
get a free (individual) license if we want: [2]
>>
>> Of course, that won't help external developers when they are not also working on
an open source project. Then its either use Eclipse WTP (with my workaround), use a different/better
IDE, or use something like JRebel and pay a price.
>>
>> As a final remark I want to say that IMO none of this is related to using Maven.
I think the only real issue right now is the problem of war overlay handling in Eclipse, which
hopefully will be solved soon.
>> I see currently no practical alternative for not using a war overlay for the rave-shindig
project, other than forking shindig server itself.
>> AFAIK using a different build system than Maven wouldn't help here either.
>>
>> Pfff, long story :)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ate
>>
>> [1] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.plugins.m2eclipse.user/6018
>> [2] http://www.zeroturnaround.com/blog/javarebel-for-open-source-development/
>>
>>>
>>> Ross
>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Unico
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 2:59 AM, Ross Gardler<rgardler@apache.org>
wrote:
>>>>> On 24/04/2011 01:31, Ross Gardler wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24/04/2011 00:35, Ross Gardler wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 23/04/2011 23:07, Ross Gardler wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll keep digging when I find a little more time, but if anyone sees
my
>>>>>> silly mistake please let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Getting a little closer, but still not working...
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried running from the projects context sensitive menu rather than
the
>>>>> server controller view. This opened the browser for me at
>>>>> http://localhost:8080/rave-portal and the page loaded (with 404's for
each
>>>>> gadget as the URL for them is not relative.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm going to bed now, I hope someone can provide me with a simple step
by
>>>>> step process for getting this working in Eclipse for an efficient edit/build
>>>>> cycle.
>>>>>
>>>>> (Damn those steep learning curves with new build tools.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Ross
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://joemorrison.org/blog/2008/06/01/developing-web-applications-with-maven-and-eclipse-you-can-have-it-all/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
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