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From Dongjoon Hyun <dongj...@apache.org>
Subject Re: drop java 7 support for spark 2.1.x or spark 2.2.x
Date Sat, 23 Jul 2016 23:54:15 GMT
Hi, All.

What about providing a official benchmark result between `Apache Spark on
JDK7` and `Apache Spark on JDK8`?
I think that is enough for this issue since we cannot drive users.
We had better let users choose one of JDK7/JDK8 for their own benefits.

Bests,
Dongjoon.



On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Koert Kuipers <koert@tresata.com> wrote:

> They don't require dropping it sooner rather than later. But signalling in
> some way that java 8 is (strongly) recommend would be good.
>
> On Jul 23, 2016 6:59 PM, "Mark Hamstra" <mark@clearstorydata.com> wrote:
>
>> Sure, signalling well ahead of time is good, as is getting better
>> performance from Java 8; but do either of those interests really require
>> dropping Java 7 support sooner rather than later?
>>
>> Now, to retroactively copy edit myself, when I previously wrote "after
>> all or nearly all relevant clusters are actually no longer running on Java
>> 6", I meant "...no longer running on Java 7".  We should be at a point now
>> where there aren't many Java 6 clusters left, but my sense is that there
>> are still quite a number of Java 7 clusters around, and that there will be
>> for a good while still.
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Koert Kuipers <koert@tresata.com> wrote:
>>
>>> i care about signalling it in advance mostly. and given the performance
>>> differences we do have some interest in pushing towards java 8
>>>
>>> On Jul 23, 2016 6:10 PM, "Mark Hamstra" <mark@clearstorydata.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Why the push to remove Java 7 support as soon as possible (which is how
>>> I read your "cluster admins plan to migrate by date X, so Spark should end
>>> Java 7 support then, too")?  First, I don't think we should be removing
>>> Java 7 support until some time after all or nearly all relevant clusters
>>> are actually no longer running on Java 6, and that targeting removal of
>>> support at our best guess about when admins are just *planning* to migrate
>>> isn't a very good idea.  Second, I don't see the significant difficulty or
>>> harm in continuing to support Java 7 for a while longer.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Koert Kuipers <koert@tresata.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> dropping java 7 support was considered for spark 2.0.x but we decided
>>>> against it.
>>>>
>>>> ideally dropping support for a java version should be communicated far
>>>> in advance to facilitate the transition.
>>>>
>>>> is this the right time to make that decision and start communicating it
>>>> (mailing list, jira, etc.)? perhaps for spark 2.1.x or spark 2.2.x?
>>>>
>>>> my general sense is that most cluster admins have plans to migrate to
>>>> java 8 before end of year. so that could line up nicely with spark 2.2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

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