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From Bart Samwel <>
Subject Re: [SparkSql] Casting of Predicate Literals
Date Wed, 26 Aug 2020 08:37:40 GMT
IMO it's worth an attempt. The previous attempts seem to be closed because
of a general sense that this gets messy and leads to lots of special cases,
but that's just how it is. This optimization would make the difference
between getting sub-par performance for using some of these datatypes to
getting decent performance. Also, even if the predicate doesn't get pushed
down, the transformation can make execution of the predicate faster. So
this can be an early optimization rule, not tied to pushdowns specifically.

I agree that it gets tricky for some data types. So I'd suggest starting
small and doing this only for integers. Then cover decimals. For those data
types at least you can easily reason that the conversion is correct. Other
data types are a lot trickier and we should analyze them one by one.

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 7:31 PM Chao Sun <> wrote:

> Hi,
> So just realized there were already multiple attempts on this issue in the
> past. From the discussion it seems the preferred approach is to eliminate
> the cast before they get pushed to data sources, at least for a few
> common cases such as numeric types. However, a few PRs following this
> direction were rejected (see [1] and [2]), so I'm wondering if this is
> still something worth trying, or if the community thinks this is risky and
> better not touch it.
> On the other hand, perhaps we can do the minimum and generate some sort of
> warning to remind users that they need to explicitly add cast to enable
> pushdown in this case. What do you think?
> Thanks for your input!
> Chao
> [1]:
> [2]:
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 1:57 PM Chao Sun <> wrote:
>> > Currently we can't. This is something we should improve, by either
>> pushing down the cast to the data source, or simplifying the predicates
>> to eliminate the cast.
>> Hi all, I've created to
>> track this. Welcome to comment on the JIRA.
>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 7:08 AM Wenchen Fan <> wrote:
>>> Currently we can't. This is something we should improve, by either
>>> pushing down the cast to the data source, or simplifying the predicates to
>>> eliminate the cast.
>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 5:09 PM Bart Samwel <>
>>> wrote:
>>>> And how are we doing here on integer pushdowns? If someone does e.g.
>>>> CAST(short_col AS LONG) < 1000, can we still push down "short_col <
>>>> without the cast?
>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 6:55 PM Russell Spitzer <
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Thanks! That's exactly what I was hoping for! Thanks for finding the
>>>>> Jira for me!
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 11:46 AM Wenchen Fan <>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I think this is not a problem in 3.0 anymore, see
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 12:08 AM Russell Spitzer <
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I've just run into this issue again with another user and I feel
>>>>>>> like most folks here have seen some flavor of this at some point.
>>>>>>> The user registers a Datasource with a column of type Date (or
>>>>>>> non string) then performs a query that looks like.
>>>>>>> *SELECT * from Source WHERE date_col > '2020-08-03'*
>>>>>>> Seeing that the predicate literal here is a String, Spark needs
>>>>>>> make a change so that the DataSource column will be of the same
>>>>>>> (Date),
>>>>>>> so it places a "Cast" on the Datasource column so our plan ends
>>>>>>> looking like.
>>>>>>> Cast(date_col as String) > '2020-08-03'
>>>>>>> Since the Datasource Strategies can't handle a push down of the
>>>>>>> "Cast" function we lose the predicate pushdown we could
>>>>>>> have had. This can change a Job from a single partition lookup
>>>>>>> a full scan leading to a very confusing situation for
>>>>>>> the end user. I also wonder about the relative cost here since
>>>>>>> could be avoiding doing X casts and instead just do a single
>>>>>>> one on the predicate, in addition we could be doing the cast
at the
>>>>>>> Analysis phase and cut the run short before any work even
>>>>>>> starts rather than doing a perhaps meaningless comparison between
>>>>>>> date and a non-date string.
>>>>>>> I think we should seriously consider whether in cases like this
>>>>>>> should attempt to cast the literal rather than casting the
>>>>>>> source column.
>>>>>>> Please let me know if anyone has thoughts on this, or has some
>>>>>>> previous Jiras I could dig into if it's been discussed before,
>>>>>>> Russ
>>>> --
>>>> Bart Samwel

Bart Samwel

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